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 Post subject: .357 Magnum is all that is needed.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:18 pm 
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Have hunted for some time with my .357 revolver. Taurus model 608SS8 3/8. Use lots of different ammo for different game. But the .357 has brought down everything from wolves to bear. Been tempted to try something larger but in my opinion that would be overkill.

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 Post subject: Re: .357 Magnum is all that is needed.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:17 pm 
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Have hunted for some time with my .357 revolver. Taurus model 608SS8 3/8. Use lots of different ammo for different game. But the .357 has brought down everything from wolves to bear. Been tempted to try something larger but in my opinion that would be overkill.


I'm glad it's worked out for you. It's a little foolish to make such sweeping generalizations as in your title, don't you think?

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 Post subject: re: .357 Magnum is all that is needed.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:56 pm 
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I don't think so- Not any more than scored with ruger revolvers this weekend. I had an english teacher once who made sure he picked apart everything that everyone said. I'm wondering if perhaps he moved to Illinois??? My intention was not to be reprimanded for the title of my post-simply to express my OPINION on a caliber of handgun that I have used for years for hunting whitetails and black bears. It has always done the job. I thought that maybe someone in the forum would be interested. I was'nt prepared to be attacked. I promise I will try harder next time. :shock: :shock:

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 Post subject: re: .357 Magnum is all that is needed.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:38 am 
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As you stated, it's your opinion.

Here's mine - if you run into a big black bear (300 lb or better), a REALLY HOT 180 grain .357 load is marginal, at best, and a 158 grain load isn't even in the running.

Given anything other than an absolutely perfect shot, it just doesn't have the ooomph; and all it takes to have a less than perfect shot is to have the animal move at the instant you squeeze the trigger.... a VERY common occurrance.

You owe it to the animal who's life you're taking to do everything you can to make it a quick, humane kill. That requires that you be able to place your shot properly, and that you use enough gun.


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 Post subject: re: .357 Magnum is all that is needed.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:41 am 
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The ONLY load I use for bear is Buffalo Boar 180 gr. Hard Cast Lead. It gets the penetration needed to get to vitals and also has the oomph to penetrate old Yogi's skull. Would not dream of using anything smaller. Took a black bear this year at a friends resort. Bear had lost all fear of man and would come in to the resort to forage in the middle of the day. ( makes the tourists a little edgey ) Worked to my advantage though as he walked straight at me allowing me to take my best shot. Shot him once in the head and that was all she wrote. Bear weighed 458 lbs. Shot was taken at about 35 ft.

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 Post subject: re: .357 Magnum is all that is needed.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:15 pm 
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Windbreak,, Your not alone. I killed my first deer with a scoped model 19, 357. Load was13.5 grains of
2400 and a 158 grain Hornady semi-jacket HP. Shot was just behind the shoulder and that young 6 point just flinched and
ran about 80 yard before he dropped. No blood trail, I did find 3 or 4 drops where he jumped an old fence. He was down but I finished him off with a head shot.
This would not be my favorite load today .If I were to try the 357 again, I think it would be a 180 grain lead in My Ruger Blackhawk.


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 Post subject: re: .357 Magnum is all that is needed.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:42 pm 
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Claybird, Used to hunt with 12 guage and slugs but for the past 9 years just my wheelgun. Don't think I will ever do the longgun thing again. Took 2 deer this year and they both dropped in a heap. By the time I got to them there was no life left. One at 115 yards and I did not aim high or low. Buffalo Bore ammo cranks out of my .357 at 1489 with chronograph 15 ft. from muzzle. Hard cast lead-180 gr. gas-checked. Bullet went through and through-lungs were blood pudding. Next year I'm going back to Winchester Supreme Partition Gold 180 gr. hollow-point. Good penetration-larger wound channel. I have actually had more deer go farther when I hunted with a shotgun and slugs. Happy Hunting :D :D :D

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 Post subject: re: .357 Magnum is all that is needed.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:26 am 
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For those interrested Corbon makes a 200gr HC 1150fps that would be my choice for bears. (BLACK)

357 fan also :D


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 Post subject: re: .357 Magnum is all that is needed.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:53 am 
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The thing I like about the BB 180 gr. HC is it chronos out of my gun at nearly 1500 fps. That's penetration. :!: :!:

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 Post subject: re: .357 Magnum is all that is needed.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:08 pm 
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give credit where credit is due. sounds to me like you are an excellent shot with a handgun. bullet placement is more important than caliber.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:24 am 
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I am a long-time S&W 686 .357 hunter. Several years ago I switched to a S&W 629 Hunter Plus 44 Magnum. This wheelgun is heavy and it absorbs recoil even from my 300 Gr. XTP JHP's pushed with 24 grains of H110. As much as I love my .357, it simply can't match my 44 Hunter for knock-down.

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 Post subject: re: .357 Magnum is all that is needed.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:58 am 
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where I hunt that most likely true longest shot might be 50 yards at most . I have harvested two deer with my .357 using a 158 gr bullet cast by me . for bear I would rather have a .44 mag but that's just me .


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 Post subject: re: .357 Magnum is all that is needed.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:31 pm 
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I'm a believer in shooting what you're comfortable with. No one said you only get one shot at a bear... I guarantee I can take down a 600+ pound bear with a .357. What the hell, I have 6 shots available to make it happen... One or two of them will get r' done.

I love my 44 Magnum, but I wouldn't be afraid to use my .357 to stop a bear.


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 Post subject: Re: .357 Magnum is all that is needed.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:26 am 
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way to long ago- my mistake


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 Post subject: Re: .357 Magnum is all that is needed.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:31 pm 
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I've been hunting bear for almost 45 years. I have taken many with a .45C that's a bit warmer and heavier than factory loads. I can see that a warmer and heavier .357Mag would work; however, I am way skeptical of a head shot. I've seen 12ga. slugs slide right off a big bear and where I hunt, they are pretty big. I'm not saying it didn't happen... I'm saying it would never be the first choice of shot for me.

As to either Brown or Grizz... there's no handgun I would bet my life on. I shot a Brown many years ago with a hot and heavy .45-70 rolling block rifle and ended up shooting him three times (two in the heart zone, one under the chin in full-frontal)... at about 40 yards.

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