Sorry folks , about the lousie posting of pictures, I'm just learning how! I also picked up a S&W up side down shoulder holster. It was a oldie but a goodie! I read an article about all the big guys who supposedly carry 1911's, and really carry a J frame. I also have a steel frame 38 cal. Bodyguard. With those 2, the Glocks rarely get out of the house!!!