[JungleJames]

I'll probably end up buy from the local dealer, but does anyone know of a steal of a deal on these over the holiday?

It looks like I can get it from them for $378. Anyone got a better deal

The Mrs. really wants a 9mm for Christmas

 

[uglydog]

The best deal I got for a Sigma was a half day's use of a D6 Cat. A local shop has some used SIG 220s(?) in 9mm for about that price as well as some used Walther P-1s. One should also be able to find used S&W and CZ 75/85 series pistols for this price. With a bit of looking a Springfield XD is also possible. All of these I feel to be much superior to the Sigma in terms of quality, reliability, and accuracy. I had a Sigma for a while and though of it as an adequate gun at first but more research into it found too many problems for my taste. The most glaring was it cracking frames but there were others too. I also hated the trigger and even the mods available did not bring it near to what I liked.

 

[JungleJames]

The Springfield XD lt looks like a great pistol. Thanks for the help. I'll end up spending a little more but you get what you pay for. Do you have any advice on 9mm vs. .40?

We bought a 18" 12 gauge pump for HD. She had to have the 12 gauge even though she hadn't ever fired one. Lets just say she was overwhelmed after the first few shells and has a new found respect for her new pump.

 

[uglydog]

I carry an XD-40 as my off duty gun but would have no problem with a 9mm. For the typical owner I would go with the 9mm as the cost of ammo is so much cheaper which allows for more practice. The ability to shoot well under pressure is key for defensive situations and it takes trigger time to do so. A hit to center mass with a 9mm will go much further toward stopping an aggressive action than a miss or even peripheral hit with a larger caliber.

As for the shotgun, there are a number of manufacturers that produce "low recoil" buckshot and slug loads. They are much nocer to shoot than the standard and especially magnum loadings. These low recoil loads were designed for smaller stature people in particular and even "full sized" people such as myself find them easy on the shoulder.

 

[gglass]

If you are going to pay more anyway... You really should look at the Sigma's bigger and newer brother, the M&P line.

The M&P has been getting rave reviews and beating the established polymers hands-down. Buds Guns online has the full sizes starting at $429 and dealers in my area have them at $469 and you still get the $50 holiday rebate. Smith & Wesson really did their homework on this one... I got rid of my Glock 17 and bought the M&P 40 FS - Great decision!

Reviews:
* http://pistol-training.com/archives/222
* http://www.policelink.com/products/prod ... sson-mp-40
* http://www.gun-tests.com/issues/20_1/fe ... 574-1.html
* http://www.defensereview.com/modules.ph ... le&sid=777
* http://www.handgunsmag.com/featured_han ... sh_032707/

 

[gglass]

I call this pic of mine "Heaven is decorated in two-tone and gold dots".

 

[USS1911a1]

Ive seen the best prices on the SW sigmas has been on gunsamerica. seen them for as low as $280.00