Chinese C96 Mauser

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Fuelburns2

Discussion Starter · Jul 13, 2006

Here are some pictures of my "new" used Broomhandle. I'm actually very impressed with the quality even though the machine marks wouldn't be visible on a German original. It's a 9mm with a 20 round detachable mag and it's very heavy. I find it amusing that the adjustable sight goes to 1000 meters. I'll have to inspect it to determine if its up to the task of being shot as is. Anyway it was well worth the money in my opinion. Does anyone know where to get a repro shoulder stock?

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Paul F.

· #2 · Jul 14, 2006

Great looking gun. Beware slam-firing and keep the action clean, clean, clean. :wink:

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uglydog

· #3 · Jul 14, 2006

I'd tell you but then I would have to report you to the BATFE. I believe only original Broomhandles and Lugers are allowed to be paired to shoulder stocks, reproductions fall under the NFA ban. The 1000 meter sight notches are pretty much wishful thinking but I have read of U-Boat personnel using the 600 meter notch on their Lugers with success on seals around Norway.
As Paul says, slam firing is not an unheard of occurance with these guns and it will get your attention. They are relatively complicated so cleanliness is needed for reliable operation. I'll have to check around, there is a great book one these guns, both original and repros but I can't think of the name. When I come up with it I'll drop you a line. With my luck it is out of print and then there will be another higher than needed expense for you.

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Fuelburns2

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jul 16, 2006

I would think this could be considered original since it follows the original design and was made during the era of German manufacture of C96s. That's like saying a Manhurin PPK isn't really a PPK because it isn't a Walther. Such foolishness. :roll:

However, at about $150 I'm not sure I care to get a stock anyway. I have no need or use for accessories and that's a lot of ammo I could get for the money.

I wonder, if this gun had included the original stock would it still be an issue?

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uglydog

· #5 · Jul 16, 2006

As I understand it, the BATFE takes a very different interpretation. Adding a stock (orginal Mauser or not) to a Chinese replica would be very illegal as it is manufactured well after short barreled rifles were outlawed for general purchase. This is much akin to the original Winchester 1887 lever action shotgun and the Chinese replicas of today; the original can be sent through the mail to anyone legally capable of owning a firearm while the replicas must be transfered through an FFL if using the same means. The WWII Lugers with stocks were exempted as curios and relics as long as it could be proven a stock was an original assessory, for those that were not issued a stock it is very bad luck to get caught with one on their gun.

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Fuelburns2

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jul 16, 2006

As I said, such foolishness. Thanks for the clarification though. Just because a law is stupid doesn't mean it's alright to break it. I'm considering buying a Hungarian PA63 so that money will be well spent assuming I still want one after I research them.

Is it legal to own a stock to the c96 so long as it is never attached to grip of the gun? I see no reason why possession would be an issue, only use.

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uglydog

· #7 · Jul 16, 2006

I think possessing both would fall into a grey area that I would not wish to be in. I suspect this may fall into an area such as that occupied by the automatic firing sear for the AR-15: depending on when the sear was made and/or the individual model of AR, it may be legal to possess both. If either falls outside of a narrow band you would then be in possession of a non-registered machinegun.
I personally would not want to be in this position, losing would be really bad and winning might cost more money than I have or will ever earn. One of the town administrators collects military firearms and other memoribilia (sp?). If I remember when I next see him I'll have to ask now that my curiosity is piqued.

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Paul F.

· #8 · Jul 17, 2006

Is it legal to own a stock to the c96 so long as it is never attached to grip of the gun? I see no reason why possession would be an issue, only use.

Uglydog is correct... the keyword in the law is "possess." For example, one cannot "possess" a silencer even if not mounted to a weapon (without going thru all the license requirements) and one cannot own a grenade, even if the pin isn't pulled. :wink: Fuelburns, one cannot possess a shoulder stock and a pistol, simultaneously. The law presumes bad things if both reside together - even if the stock is unmounted. :roll:

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uglydog

· #9 · Jul 18, 2006

Thanks Paul,
My second post is incorrect, there is no grey area. My collector acquaintance said that the possession/ownership of the shoulder stock and pistol would result in a very bad experience with the BATFE. He even went so far as to say that owning a shoulder stock with any handgun might be a bad decision. His point was a particularly unknowing but persistant agent would likely find some way of jamming the stock onto the pistol. He has a bit of an imagination but considering some of the people I've worked with or encountered, he has a point.

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Paul F.

· #10 · Jul 19, 2006

Remember, BATF and IRS are clones - they get most tips from friends, family and neighbors. :wink:

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nhclubowner

· #11 · Dec 27, 2007

Fuelburns2 said:
Here are some pictures of my "new" used Broomhandle. I'm actually very impressed with the quality even though the machine marks wouldn't be visible on a German original. It's a 9mm with a 20 round detachable mag and it's very heavy. I find it amusing that the adjustable sight goes to 1000 meters. I'll have to inspect it to determine if its up to the task of being shot as is. Anyway it was well worth the money in my opinion. Does anyone know where to get a repro shoulder stock?

Good looking gun! I just traded mine for three pistols. Shot my broom once with no problems. I had the stock and leather case. Also, I do know where there are new repro stocks for sale. I took the broom to a gun show in NH and it drew a lot of attention. Anyway, good luck with the gun.

Dave

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