I originally had a Kimber Ultra Covert on layaway, but I got tired of waiting, and it was going to be awhile before I could pick it up. My dealer had a used Glock 23, so I checked it out and I would say that it maybe has had one magazine of ammo fired through it, if that. Absolutely perfect condition. So I transferred the money I had put on the Kimber and paid off the Glock 23. I couldn't be happier, either. Now I just need a holster.