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If you want a sweet pistol, get the USP!
I've been shooting my Glock 22 (.40 FS) for a while, it was ok, nothing spectacular. I picked up a USP .45 FS and I am blown away by its accuracy and smoothness.
I was hesitant about owning a .45 because of kick, and it would need much practice to be good on follow-up shots. But the first day I shot the USP I fell in love. The USP has a two-stage recoil spring which helps felt recoil a bit, but the primary design is to keep internals and attached items in better condition as it reduces the more abrupt jump of the heavier bullet.
I have an X200A attached and trijicon night sights. I intend to get rubber grips for the gun as holding it for extended periods of time (30 minutes or more) can wear on your fingers because of the groves put into the front of the polymer grip.

Standing I am able to put 10 rounds in 6-inch groupings at 25 yards and 2-inch groupings at bench rest (measured from two furthest bullets – not average of distances).

The only two problems with the gun is that it is large (thus not very concealable – but you don't buy this gun to hide, you buy it to boast about your shots) and heavy, but that does help with follow-up shots. The second problem is that there are a limited number of accessories you can get for the gun (unlike, say, a Glock). I wish I could put a Lasermax in it, as the sights I designed for a 20-yard distance, much further and you cover your target with your sights trying to be accurate.

The double-single action on the gun is fantastic. It has about a 10 lb pull when decocked, and about 3.5 lb pull when cocked. The fire-select style safety/decocker is cool, and the gun in general looks very sexy.

Let me know what you guys think about the USP!
 

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The USP is the best in its class, then again it is the only one in that class. It was designed from the ground up to be used as a primary weapons system and not a secondary arm hence its being large and heavy. if I was going into a fight or looking for one it is the gun I would want. It would also be a decent choice as a bedside gun. For day in, day out carry on the hip, I'd rather have the Glock and I don't care for them at all. I'd much rather lug around 30 some ounces than nearly twice that amount. Those who carry guns regularly have enough back and hip pain due to weight, adding more can't do anything positive. For shooting I'd give it a 5, for carry and all round general use I'd give it a two and price a 1. Over all, it would rate a 3 in my book.
 

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What do you mean by .40 FS and .45 FS?

I've heard of .40 S&W and .45 ACP and LC, but that's a new one on me.
 

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FS may refer to "Frame mounted Safety" instead of being related to caliber. My Baby DE is available with a safety on the frame instead of the slide and that variation is referenced as "FS".
 

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It means full size.
 

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I turned 21 back in February '06 and for 2 years before that I knew that I wanted to own a hundgun. I spent countless hours reading reviews online and handling many different guns both on the range and in gunshops. Needless to say I did my research and I ended up getting an HK USP in .45 back in June and I must say that I am VERY pleased with the guns performance. It was a tough choice for me and I went through many different phases before finally deciding on the HK. At first I wanted a Glock 22 which I shot well at the range but I didn't like the fact that there was no manual safety and Glocks are so common and ugly I wanted to seperate myself. Next I looked into 1911's (only high end one's such as Kimber, S+W...) but they were just too expensive (who wants a cheap 1911?) The final thing that caught my eye was the Taurus 24/7 which IMO looks better than a Glock and also has a manual safety but it seemed to light and cheaply made to fit my needs (although all the reviews I read said only positive things) But like I said who wants a cheap handgun? Then one day I walked into a gunshop and there she was my HK USP in the used case for $500. After thoroughly inspecting the bore and slide it seemed that the thing was hardly used so I plunked down the cash for it and walked out happier than ever. A few days later I was showing it to one of my buddies and when I whipped it out he cried out that he was eyeying the same HK at the same store the other day but before he could buy it "someone else" (me) had already purchased it. He also knew the background behind it stating that his friend had bought it, put 50 rounds through it and decided he didn't like it because it didn't have night sights (what a noob nightsights for an HK are what $89?) Anyway that's my story and I love my HK so much! It blows away all my other friends guns in accuracy and power. I just feel bad for all my friends with *chuckle* Hi-Points and "blocks".
 

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Yay! Another USP lover!
Whenever I go shooting with my friends they always want to shoot my H&K USP .45. I've added a hogue rubber grip (very, very comfy), picatinny rail adaptor for my surefire. I've added Trijicon night sites (yeah, I got them for $80). I've shot at least five or six thousand rounds through it since I bought it in March. I imagine I'll start slowing down on the amount that I'm shooting, because it is getting very expensive ($21 for 100 rounds = over $1000 in ammo just for my USP). I also own a Glock 22. But I only got that because my local gun store couldn't get the USP for about 3 weeks after I decided to buy my first hand gun. The glock is pretty nice. It is ugly. But add-ons are nice, like my lasermax integrated laser and a universal acessory rail (from the factory). I also have night sites on it, and another hogue rubber grip.
 

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Oh yeah. Here is a pic of my H&K:



This is my background on my computer (hence the weird resolution because I have a widescreen LCD).
 

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hmm hogue rubber grips feel nice you say? I've been looking into them but it is a pretty large frame already and it fits my big hands real nice and I would imagine that the extra rubber would be almost too much. Where do you get your ammo because it sounds like wal-mart. We get the same prices for .45 at mine ($21 a box for 100) which isn't too bad but it can get expensive especially when all your other friends want to shoot your .45 over their 9s and 40s! PS nice looking HK but you might want to blur out your serial number! PPS since the rail mount under the HK only accepts HK accesories can you get an attatchment that turns it into a picatinny?
 

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I have hands that are well above average in size. So even though the USP was the most comfortable gun I've held, the rubber grips made it even better. Another problem I had, in some situations I was using my USP in, I had to hold the gun for extended periods of time. The little grooves in the gun got really annoying after a while, so this fixed it obviously. One more thing it did for me, the USP blind-pointed slightly down for me. Now with the grip, it points perfectly straight.
As for the picatinny...that is how I got the x200 on there. The adaptor I have on that gun converts it to a picatinny rail. In the picture, you can see it just above the surefire light.
 

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PS nice looking HK but you might want to blur out your serial number!
Fixed.
I also reduced the size of the file from 2MB down to about 560KB.
Thanks.
 

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Man I want all of those accessories! So where did you find that picatinny adapter online or in a store and how much was it? Also how much is the X200? Finally is your hogue grip the "Handall" model and if not which model is it? Thanks!
 

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As far as I know Hogue only makes one model (do I assume its the "handall" model. I have the same grip on my Glock 22 and my Remington 870 with knoxx specops (very comfy and natural).

The picatinny adaptor was $80 from surefire. This model (for the USP .45 full-size) is the MR09, but they have other models for other guns too. You view the model you need via a link from the x200 info page on surefure.com. The Surefire I bought on eBay for $180 but don't expect that price (retail is $250) and many on eBay sell for $200+. I got mine cheaper than most because the light was minorly messed up, and they didn't figure doing anything with the warranty. So when I got it, I used surefire's no questions asked, no BS, 100% warranty and got a brand new light for free.

The trijicon night sights I got from a dealer for $80, and had them installed by a gun smith, because it is a pain to install them yourself and have them correct.

Oh, yeah, by the way, if you get the picatinny adaptor, make sure you blue-loctite your screws, and put them in very tight

I’m also thinking about getting a quote from our gunsmith to see how much it would be to lighten the single-action pull on the gun. It is currently about 3 lbs., I’d love it to be 20-24 oz! I figure, if I’m going to have a DA/SA gun (some people really don’t like the idea of it, but I do), then I want to have the SA trigger, super fine, so everyone will like it who shoots with me :D .
 
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