I'd like to help, but my area doesn't sell handguns. And the only licensed gun dealer in this town (Wal-Mart) won't sell me a firearm because they're afraid of me, because I wear gloves in the store during winter and asked to see more than one particular model when trying to decide which I'd like to buy.
handgun pricing
I've been looking online at a few different handguns and I noticed that MSRP is usually a lot more expencive than the OTD price. I'm hoping some of you guys can let me know what these guns are going for in your area.
92FS (9mm or .40)
S&W 686
CZ75 (9mm or .40)
SA XD (9mm or .40)
There aren't many gunshops in my area so pricing these guns has been really hard.
92FS (9mm or .40)
S&W 686
CZ75 (9mm or .40)
SA XD (9mm or .40)
There aren't many gunshops in my area so pricing these guns has been really hard.
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The 4" Duty XD in either 9mm or 40 S&W generally go around $450-$460 new with the Melonite or what ever that new coating is another Jefferson or so more. 5" Tactical models are another $50 while the 3" SC run about the same as the Duty or sometimes a few bucks less. The 9mm goes on sale at times for $420 at Gander Mountain.
I haven't seen a new CZ in quite a while but they are going a bit over $300 to $350 used. I would expect new models to be another $100 more. The standard Beretta 92s are hardly being carried new as there are a number of police turn ins on the market. The new ones I recall seeing ran a bit more than the XD but that was at a pawn shop noted for high prices. He will deal but he has to know you and believe you are serious about buying at that moment. The 686 revolver is generally seen in the target/hunting version with 8 3/8" barrel I think and is fairly steep. I want to say in the $500+ range but I very easily could be mistaken. The last price I remember for a new 6" or 4" was $386 about 3 years ago. A dispatcher bought it and I thought it was high but I'm not into revolvers much any more.
Sorry I can't be of more help, I seldom look at new guns any more as there are so many decent deals in the used rack. I also pay scant attention to most of the models you listed which doesn't help much. If I get out looking anytime soon I'll take a look and repost if I find anything.
I haven't seen a new CZ in quite a while but they are going a bit over $300 to $350 used. I would expect new models to be another $100 more. The standard Beretta 92s are hardly being carried new as there are a number of police turn ins on the market. The new ones I recall seeing ran a bit more than the XD but that was at a pawn shop noted for high prices. He will deal but he has to know you and believe you are serious about buying at that moment. The 686 revolver is generally seen in the target/hunting version with 8 3/8" barrel I think and is fairly steep. I want to say in the $500+ range but I very easily could be mistaken. The last price I remember for a new 6" or 4" was $386 about 3 years ago. A dispatcher bought it and I thought it was high but I'm not into revolvers much any more.
Sorry I can't be of more help, I seldom look at new guns any more as there are so many decent deals in the used rack. I also pay scant attention to most of the models you listed which doesn't help much. If I get out looking anytime soon I'll take a look and repost if I find anything.
Guns America, www.gunsamerica.com is a good way of checking out prices for a given model. Take an average of several, kick out the high and the low and you'll have a pretty good idea of what the going price for the gun you want is. It also gives you an idea about availibity. Less for sale generally means higher prices. You will see a lot more Ruger 10/22's for sale than you will Marlin 39 A's for example. Gun Broker is another good scource for this kind of information www.gunbroker.com Bill T.
Thanks for all of the info, guys. I'm trying to keep my purchase under 500 so we'll see what I can find.
Talk to guys at the range - and find out where they are buying their guns locally. There may be a good local pawn shop specializing in guns - or a dealer that is the consensus place to go.
I guess I'm lucky since I have 5 or 6 real good shops within an hour or so of my house - but I try and keep my purchases with 1 primary dealer - and that way they help me out a little on price on a new or consignement gun when something shows up.
I guess I'm lucky since I have 5 or 6 real good shops within an hour or so of my house - but I try and keep my purchases with 1 primary dealer - and that way they help me out a little on price on a new or consignement gun when something shows up.
I've only got 1 gun dealer in my area and he refuses to check prices for me unless I'm seriously looking to buy something. He owns a bike shop and firearms are more of a sidebar for him. I don't know enough about what guns are worth and how to check their condition to trust any of the pawn shops in my area. I guess I'll wait until I'm getting close to buying something and I'll compare prices between K's Merchendise and the bike/gun shop.
Go to Midway.....
http://www.midwayusa.com/
They will sell you the current issue of the Blue Book for $20 or so. It contains a wealth of information on makes, models, and condition factors as well as pricing.
With the Blue book, even though there may be some regional variation in the price of a certain gun, you'll have a VERY good idea of the going price on a gun.
http://www.midwayusa.com/
They will sell you the current issue of the Blue Book for $20 or so. It contains a wealth of information on makes, models, and condition factors as well as pricing.
With the Blue book, even though there may be some regional variation in the price of a certain gun, you'll have a VERY good idea of the going price on a gun.
Excellent idea. This will give me a little leverage if my local gun dealer tries to screw me.wwb said:Go to Midway.....
http://www.midwayusa.com/
They will sell you the current issue of the Blue Book for $20 or so. It contains a wealth of information on makes, models, and condition factors as well as pricing.
With the Blue book, even though there may be some regional variation in the price of a certain gun, you'll have a VERY good idea of the going price on a gun.
look at gunsamerica.com - I think their pricing represents a good cross section. I've bought several shotguns thru brokers / dealers there with very good results. They have a lot of good info on there - and you can call some of those dealers / email them - or just view the different offerings on the site so you get a feel for the price of a new unfired gun / a used gun. I know some of the dealers in my area use gunsamerica to advertise some of their inventory from time to time.
Is gunsamerica like ebay? I've never liked buying expensive items on ebay because you don't know what you're getting.
I will use the site to price things, though.
I will use the site to price things, though.
GunBroker is the ebay of guns. GunsAmerica is simply classified ads, not an auction. :wink:
Dealing on the internet is a little risky - but there are some ways to make it a little better. Ideally if you know of a dealer on there - that is recommended by one of your buddies - then you are probably in pretty good shape.
Between my buddies and myself - we've probably purchased 30 guns off of gunsamerica in the last 3 years ( mostly shotguns ). But sometimes it's the only way to get something you want - when it's not readily available thru all dealers - especially with Browning not shipping much inventory on their target guns over the last 4 or 5 years.
I prefer to deal thru my local shops / distributors in my area when I can - but when something comes up thru an estate sale or something / or somebody is unloading some excess inventory it's a good deal / chance to pick up something you've wanted for awhile.
Between my buddies and myself - we've probably purchased 30 guns off of gunsamerica in the last 3 years ( mostly shotguns ). But sometimes it's the only way to get something you want - when it's not readily available thru all dealers - especially with Browning not shipping much inventory on their target guns over the last 4 or 5 years.
I prefer to deal thru my local shops / distributors in my area when I can - but when something comes up thru an estate sale or something / or somebody is unloading some excess inventory it's a good deal / chance to pick up something you've wanted for awhile.
If I come across any good deals on there, I'll run the seller's name by you to see if you can find out anything about him.BigDog said:Dealing on the internet is a little risky - but there are some ways to make it a little better. Ideally if you know of a dealer on there - that is recommended by one of your buddies - then you are probably in pretty good shape.
Between my buddies and myself - we've probably purchased 30 guns off of gunsamerica in the last 3 years ( mostly shotguns ). But sometimes it's the only way to get something you want - when it's not readily available thru all dealers - especially with Browning not shipping much inventory on their target guns over the last 4 or 5 years.
I prefer to deal thru my local shops / distributors in my area when I can - but when something comes up thru an estate sale or something / or somebody is unloading some excess inventory it's a good deal / chance to pick up something you've wanted for awhile.
I also favor GunBroker as the flagship online site for 'street pricing'.
You might also check the PistolWorld Classifieds; I have just listed a 686 for sale there, and there are a few other interesting items.
You might also check the PistolWorld Classifieds; I have just listed a 686 for sale there, and there are a few other interesting items.
I saw your 686, if I was 21, I'd probably buy it today. Seems like a very nice gun, although I am looking for one with a 4" bbl.
I also like to use Gun Broker as a way of pricing guns and knowing what is fair and what isn't. I have tried to use Guns America for price comparisons in the past but I don't like it as much as Gun Broker. I also tend to find more people trolling the deep waters on Guns America trying to get something to sell for the price of gold when it isn't even worth the price of steel :roll:
True, true. At least on GB you can see what's getting bids and what's pie-in-the-sky.semiauto said:I also tend to find more people trolling the deep waters on Guns America trying to get something to sell for the price of gold when it isn't even worth the price of steel :roll:
True, true. At least on GB you can see what's getting bids and what's pie-in-the-sky.semiauto said:I also tend to find more people trolling the deep waters on Guns America trying to get something to sell for the price of gold when it isn't even worth the price of steel :roll:
For new firearms, I normally go to budsgunshop.com for the best "street prices". You can find some firearms cheaper elsewhere, but for your bread-n-butter models, they seem best.
For used firearms, kyimports.com often has some good prices on good guns.
For used firearms, kyimports.com often has some good prices on good guns.
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