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Hey guys, first time poster here. I own a Glock 19 and have a Streamlight TLR-1 on it. I have been giving some consideration as to the best way to holster/stow my weapon for easy access in a home defense situation. I currently have it in the factory pistol case under my side of the bed. I suppose this setup is fine, but I would like to have the option of confronting a situation without my weapon drawn (say if there is a fight on my front lawn in the middle of the night after the bar around the corner closes). I do not want to escalate a situation, but I want my weapon to be accessible enough without stuffing it gangster style into the waist of my hastily put on pants. I am a fan of paddle holsters because I can quickly put it on (at the small of my back ideally, because I doubt I will be fully dressed and the whole idea is keeping it from sight) but there ar few options available for pistols with weapon mounted lights.

This brings me to my second question/point, what are your thoughts on hand held tactical lights vs weapon mounted ones? I prefer the idea of the weapon mounted light because I have full control of my weapon in a stressful situation. A problem arises though in situations (like that front yard fight) where I cannot use the light without pointing my weapon, which might be undesirable. Right now I have a mag light next to my bed and use that for checking out little bumps in the night.

So what do you guys think? How do you store your pistols if you use them for home defense? Weapon mounted or handheld tactical lights? I was thinking about one of the Galco escort waist packs, but it looks like I would have to cut away some of the neoprene holster to get the pistol to fit with the light mounted on it. I have trouble cutting away at an $80 dollar holster if I am unsure of the results.

Thank God we live in a country where (for most of us) having to use a weapon for home defense is not the norm and the odds are it will not happen to us ever. It does happen though and I prefer having thought these things through, and being prepared for the most likely scenarios.

Thoughts?
 

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First off, if a fight breaks out in your yard, stay in the house and call the police, its what you pay taxes for. going out there "to break it up" is only putting you into a difficult spot if you are attacked. In the majority of jurisdictions, you need to be a "reluctant combatant" which means YOU were attacked or threatened with attack. Leaving a safe haven (inside your house) to approach a threatening situation is often considered an aggressive act. Even if your personal property is being damaged, it is a real legal grey area if you are forced to defend yourself while armed. In the long run, it is much cheaper to replace or repair anything that is damaged than to hire an attorney to represent you through the process. If the action in the yard carries onto the porch and into the house, that is generally a different matter. If you really feel the need to play action hero and break up a fight, put in an underground sprinkler system and turn it on when something is going on in the yard. It works really well as one of our residents who has a similar situation as you found out.
As for keeping it ready in the house, mine is always loaded and within reach. If there are young kids in the house, one must determine for themselves what level of readiness versus safety from unauthorized hands is the correct balance. When we have the grandkids over, I put my gun in the holster and secure the retention strap. I figure between that, the dogs, a locked interior door, a closed door to the guestroom, and the normal noise the kids make, I or my wife will wake up by the time they get in and if not, I am hoping the retention strap and built in retention features of the holster keep it out of their hands.
The holster I have is made by Bianchi though several others make them too. Try looking up the local police supply company as they will likely have them or at least be willing to order one. I have this holster on my spare duty belt as I don't really like the holster all that much. It is kind of a pain to draw the gun with an attached light as there is a lot more friction area and a few extra angles to catch on things. My normal duty rig uses a standard holster with a separate holster for the unattached light. I always have a handheld light in addition to the gun mounted one, actually it is the other way around, a gun mounted in addition to the hand light. There are a number of times when the one is preferable to the other though the gun mounted light can be used as a standard hand held much easier than a hand held as a gun mount. A hand held is an important item to have handy as one will have use of it far more often than one on the gun.
So to recap, I keep my gun on the nightstand with the light attached unless others are over then I secure it to a somewhat greater degree. I also have a handheld light next to it for most uses. I only plan on protecting myself or family within the confines of the house when possible, property outside is pretty much on its own. I will not go outside to interfere with someone else's fight unless it turns very serious and then I have statutory law and department policy which gives me the authority and obligation to intervene as well as some degree of training and experience which the vast majority of civilians do not have. Again, if a fight breaks out or carries into the yard, stay out of it and call the police. If it is really a problem, seriously look at moving or pushing the authorities to pull the liquor license. To do so takes police responses which means you calling, not attempting to break things up.
 

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Thanks uglydog.
You're right about the front yard thing. I gave a bad example of when I might want to have my weapon on my person without having it drawn. I am all about the cops and have talked with my wife about making sure she is on the cell phone (or ready to dial) with authorities if I ever left the bedroom suspecting a problem.
No kids in the house and we have two big dogs inside to pick up on any noise we don't wake from, so the home defense options can stay under the bed for now.
Our neighborhood is not too bad, but we have only been here a month. In that month there have been three car break-ins and a theft on my street, and just before we moved in there was a vehicle theft, and a residential burglary. Everything is insured, and I am not inclined to shoot someone over property.
On a side note, I just looked at the stats for the last three months of crime for my neighborhood (about 2 sq miles)
3 aggravated assaults
5 commercial burglaries
2 deadly weapons arrests
3 drunk in public
24 vandalisms
8 narcotics arrests
17 residential burglaries
3 robberies
6 simple assaults
21 thefts
48 vehicle break ins
31 vehicle thefts

Not too bad for around here, though we have the local barrio beat out on everything but vehicle thefts (65) and narcotics (26).
Anyway, I guess the point is, the neighborhood is not bad. The people are nice and the rent isn’t cheap. There are a lot of areas around here though where people up to no good can pass through and break a few car windows on the way. I am not about to shoot at anyone and I certainly don't want confrontation. Even if I am armed, they could be as well, and having the weapons in the house is only for the highly unlikely situation where my family’s safety is in danger. 911 is always the first option. Anyway, the dogs like to bark at any noise in the house or backyard when they are sleeping in our room. The odds of someone sticking around at that are pretty low I am sure.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts on the matter.
 
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