[Fuelburns2]

I heard from a friend tonight that Michigan just passed a law making it a class three state but I can't find any information to substantiate his claim. Has anyone else heard about this?


Sorry about all the Michigan threads but I have a vested interest, so to speak. :wink: HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

 

[b540glenn]

I haven't heard anything about it, but then again I've been squirreled away from real news lately.

Check Michigan Votes to see if it was passed recently.

 

[Paul F.]

I haven't heard anything, either. On the subject... what ever happened to the proposal to allow CCW by anyone that could show a DD214 and honorable discharge. It was in the news, regularly, a month ago... now nothing! :?

 

[thumper723]

Paul, would that proposal have allowed Active Duty to get one as well?

I am possibly taking orders to Flint (AAHH, NOOO!) for a NROTC unit that is opening up. They want Alumni from one of the schools (and I am all they have, unfortunatley).

Safe to say, I am NOT moving back to Flint, unless I can carry.

 

[Fuelburns2]

I checked the link Glen provided as well as several others and came up with nothing. I think my buddy is FoS. :roll: Too bad, I was almost excited for a minute there. If I do come up with anything I'll post it for the rest of you.

The good news is The Brady Campaign rated Michigan as D+ in 2004. California has an A- so I think we're better off flunking. Go Michigan!

 

[Paul F.]

THUMPER... THAT DID INCLUDE ACTIVE DUTY.

I am busy trying to find out where the proposal stands and will post information as I find out. :wink:

There are some nice communities AROUND Flint - but, nobody in their right mind actually LIVES in Flint! :?

 

[clayshooter25/25]

Yeah, thats Michael Moore's home town :shock:

 

[thumper723]

I lived there for 5 years. Almost got mugged 3 times.

Once I had no choice but to fight, and slammed his head into a gas pump. Knocked him out cold. When the FPD came to get him, he was wanted on 3 charges of aggrivated assault and 1 charge of attempted murder, plus a bunch of lesser stuff. I ended up with a broken finger and a bruised hand. This was 3pm on a Tuesday, at a gas station on Saginaw Rd, north of downtown.

Second time, got saved by a fraternity brother who was carrying. Was walking home with him at 3am from an all-night lab project. Crackheads tried to jump us crossing the bridge over the Flint river on 3rd Ave/Sunset Blvd.

Third time was on Corunna Rd, at 6pm. Was driving to WalMart when my Checker Marathon blew a u-joint. I was underneath the car fixing it when some Flintoid walked up and started throwing dirt at me for being white, (was calling me a Cracker MF'er) and when I came out from under the car, he broke a 40 over my head. MHP came up as I was going down, (this was 1 block from the Highway Patrol Station). Trooper John Davies saved my A$$ that day.

Brothers in-laws are from Flint, it was a nice town until about 1977 they say....

I am thinking of living in Owosso, Lapeer or Chesaning if they ram these orders down my throat. I like Howell, but it's a bit expensive for the drive. Grandfather-in-law lives in Fenton, but it is getting too built up for my taste.

 

[Fuelburns2]

I'm a beer salesman for part of Detroit. Wearing beer logos on all of my clothing and carrying an expensive computer to write orders with isn't fun in that neighborhood and I've had more than my fair share of problems. Three more months and I get my CPL, but I'll still have my hands tied up with that dumb labtop. :? For the most part I just run like hell if I'm able. My interest in getting a license for fully automatic weapons is more just to know whether it's legal or not. I have no plans to actually get one so it's more of an academic curiousity. I'm counting the days until I get that CPL though.

 

[Pistolero]

I heard from a friend tonight that Michigan just passed a law making it a class three state but I can't find any information to substantiate his claim. Has anyone else heard about this?


Sorry about all the Michigan threads but I have a vested interest, so to speak. :wink: HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

I just read where Michigan has issued a new interpretation of their machinegun law and it says that you will now be able to purchase machineguns. As soon as I find the link I will post it for you.

 

[Pistolero]

This is what I read:

The Macomb Daily (Mount Clemens, Mich.) 1/4/06

Newer machine guns can now be purchased

Cox overrides Kelley's ruling

By Chad Selweski
Macomb Daily Staff Writer

A state attorney general's opinion requested by a Macomb County man makes it easier for Michigan residents to obtain modern machine guns.

Attorney General Mike Cox ruled that possession of machine guns manufactured prior to 1986 is legal for those who follow federal application procedures, including fingerprints, a photo and a criminal background check.

"This will open up a larger class of firearms, a larger pool of guns, to people in Michigan," said Michael Sessa Jr. of Harrison Township, 45, who sought the attorney general's opinion. "Now, we'll be able to own slightly newer machine guns."

At issue was a 1977 opinion issued by former attorney general Frank Kelley that limited Michigan ownership of machine guns to relics and antiques. Kelley's ruling was followed by a law adopted by Congress that, as of 1986, outlawed the ownership of newly manufactured machine guns, with the exception of police and the military.

Cox's opinion, issued Dec. 27, supercedes Kelley's ruling, saying that those who successfully apply to the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms can obtain pre-1986 weapons, which are known as "transferables." A majority of states have similar rights, recognizing that transfer of possession of pre-1986 federally registered weapons is legal.

Michigan residents had been limited to pre-1977 machine guns while more modern versions of assault weapons, used by military police, had been off-limits because of Kelley's opinion. Critics had said that Kelley's ruling was contrary to the intent of state legislation.

The new attorney general's opinion was formally sought by state Rep. Leon Drolet, a Clinton Township Republican, at Sessa's request. Sessa, founder of Gun Owners of Macomb County, said the previous law made it difficult for him to compete in machine gun target-shooting competitions.

A federally licensed firearms dealer, Sessa said he has been put at a disadvantage in twice-yearly competitions held in Kentucky because of the dated weaponry he was forced to rely upon.

Sessa said the Cox opinion will have limited impact because machine guns cost between $8,000 and $15,000 and the procedure of transferring ownership can take six months to complete.

 

[semiauto]

This really bites :x I going to have to move to Tennessee or another one of the many class three states in the country if the Michigan laws don't change!

 

[Fuelburns2]

This is an improvement over previous restrictions. Now it is legal to transfer pre '86 machine guns whereas it was previously legal to transfer pre '77 machine guns. Are there any states that allow the transfer of new machine guns or is '86 a federal cutoff for manufacture?

 

[Pistolero]

Federal Law. No machineguns manufactured after '86 are transferrable to the general public. Machineguns made after '86 known as restricted transfers and are only transferrable between government and law enforcement agencies.

 

[Fuelburns2]

That's alright, if I had money to waste I'd get a 1928 Thompson. The new stuff doesn't appeal to me as much and I can think of better ways to spend my money.