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i was wondering what you think of the sw40ve. i have read 50/50 good/bad on them and am looking for my first gun and do not want to spend more than 300$. i have found one for 239$ and am tempted but would like to read what you think. i would like to get into a 45 or something a little bigger in the future. i have never owned a semi hand gun but have several friends that do and get plenty of target time with them. they all tell me, desert eagle, then laugh. again i am not going to spend more than 300$ including shipping for a new gun. i do have a lot of experience with guns, mainly rifels and shotguns, i am an avid hunter.


i just got back from my local hardware store and they have a p89 that they want for 329. i am sure they will go down. it is used, comes with 3 clips and a case
 

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I would go for the Ruger long before the S&W40VE Sigma. I've owned a Sigma, and even though it went off when I pulled the trigger, it was a fairly crude gun. I've made a favorable recommendation for the Sigma in the past but further experiences with them have lead me to downgrade my opinion. If there is any other option, I would seriously look at that first.
 

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I paid $329 for my P-89 new, but only one clip. Additional clips were $35 so this might not be a bad price depending on your area. Make an offer. The P-89 is solid and reliable. The grip is a bit thick and the trigger pull might seem long but after shooting many rounds and a lot of dry firing the action has smoothed out quite nicely and I really appreciate the gun. It might not be sexy but it is pretty much bullet proof. If your state allows, 15 round clips are available.
 

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it was 329 used but it looked brand new. i like the rugged look. makes it look like it takes care of buisness. i plan to make them an offer and see what they say, i wish i had a junk shotgun or something to trade but i dont . i will let you know.
 

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My P85's work great. Got a P89 and nobody in my family (several shooters) could hit squat with it... TERRIBLE trigger.
If at all possible, put a box of cheap loads through the P89 before you plunk down $$$.
good luck.
///olde 8) pharte///
 

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Wasn't trying to put the kibosh on your deal; just giving a word of caution. With Ruger's infamous up-and-down quality control, it's very possible that my P89 was built on a Monday (crappola) and the one you are looking at may be a jewel. Can't tell without actual trigger time.
For a semiauto, it's pretty near impossible (for me, at least) to feel the trigger's personality without useing some live ammo.
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Our State Hwy. Partol went with the Sigma--but not for long. I don't know what kind of problems they had with them, but they dropped them within a year. I've heard a lot of people complain about the trigger.

If I were going with an inexpensive semi-auto, I'd go with the Ruger 345. Ya can't do better than a .45 ACP . . . until you grow up and get a wheelgun! :shock:
 

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I agree. Out of 30 something guns, I don't have a 1911, but I sure couldn't fault a guy for hanging on to one! It's a fine weapon, and a great American tradition. Hat's off to you sir.
 

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well i pickexd up my ruger p89 friday but because of work and the weather i have not been able to shoot it yet. as long as tomorrow is nice i will go to the range. i am very happy with it. i have field stripped it, cleaned it and lubed it. i will let you know about how i like it after i shoot it.
 

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Re: re: opinions please

1gsplover said:
My P85's work great. Got a P89 and nobody in my family (several shooters) could hit squat with it... TERRIBLE trigger.
If at all possible, put a box of cheap loads through the P89 before you plunk down $$$.
good luck.
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My impression is that several models of Ruger guns now have "lawyer" triggers on them. It seems that Sturm Ruger may be more interested in covering their own selves from liability suits than in providing good weapons. However, there is some hope. The new M77 Hawkeye does have a pretty good, if somewhat heavy, trigger on it. At least, it is much better than the triggers on some of the M77 MkII's out there.
 

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well i finally got a chance to go to the range. i shot put about 150 rounds through it without a jam. winchester, remington and wolf. it was a blast. at 20 yards i couldnt hit squat but at 20ft i was dead on. i plan to go tomorrow and do another 150. i would have shot more today but everyone wanted to shoot trap.
 

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i am trying to decide if i should buy a smith and wesson highway patroller in 357 mag or colt 1911 in 45 apc.

these are the things i am trying to consider when purchasing.

A,my gun will be used for fun and home protection.

B,having handled numerous guns today at my possesion acuasition lisence course, the two mentioned were the most comfortable fits for my larger hand while not being akward like those 44mag hand cannons!

C,i am left handed left eye dominant (the sig was terrible to use Rolling Eyes )

D,i have many rifles and a shotgun, so i have some experience but have yet to fire a handgun.

E, i am poor lol! Razz Mr. Green

somthing i was wondering is if the 38 is cheaper bullets than the 357 mag or 45 acp (pratice made cheap! Very Happy
 
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