[BigDog]

I was having trouble with 'nny' brass in .38 special and some 9mm ( stuff I picked up off the floor at my local range ). Apparently it's another of the eastern european brass mfg's that may have their specs off a little.

In the .38 spl I was having trouble punching out the primer and resizing - in station 1 on my Dillion 650. It was just jamming - and I think the flash hole inside the .38spl case is undersized although it's hard to measure. Just another case we have to "weed out" after we clean the brass "S&B" and now "nny" goes in the junk pile .....

Watch out for it - if you pick up brass off the floor like I do at an indoor range. ( I usually load my own brass, especially in a revolver, but when it hits a concrete floor and bounces around in an indoor range - you're bound to get some junk ). If anyone knows why it was jamming on me in station 1 please let me know -- just curious.

 

[uglydog]

Have you looked to verify the brass is Boxer primed rather than Berdan? The European standard is for Berdan and it would not seem unusual to run into this, especially if the ammo was not made specifically for the U.S. market.

 

[Hazzard]

Look to see if there are 2 flash holes in the bottom of the case. As uglydog says, it may be berdan primed.

 

[hoashooter]

The ones I have seen and left at the lower range were not only Berdan primed but also made of some alloy???????

 

[BigDog]

only 1 flash hole - so it's not Berdan primed (unless I don't know all of the variations out there). But it may be that the primers are almost "cemented" in place with some type of epoxy - kind of a red line around them.

I have a couple of other guys testing them - to see if they can get them to "deprime" but so far noone wants to mash them down that hard in their press. I'll keep you posted.

 

[Hazzard]

The pimers may be crimped, but I have decapped crimped primers before with just a bit more effort. The problem in these usually comes in reseating the new primers. You may just want to toss it and look for another brand.

 

[BigDog]

I'm definitely tossing it out - just curious if you guys know about it or why it won't deprime. S&B (Sellior & Belloit ?) is another one where the primers are a little tough to get out / and tougher to reseat - because the primer hole is tapered a little ( but this 'nny' junk is way tougher to deprime than that stuff ).

 

[Hazzard]

Before you toss it, try dipping one in nail polish remover. I'll bet it's either sealed with a loc-tite or nail polish type compound.

 

[darkgael]

The simple solution is, unfortunately, a lot of work - maybe more than its worth. Get a .30 cal Lee Decapper and base from Midway (about $3.50) and decap them manually (with a mallet). If that won't take them out, nothing will. Good tool to have in any case
Pete

 

[BigDog]

We have finally identified the problem - there is an inconsistency in the size of the flash hole ( some / most are undersized ). It probably varies by lot ....... but it's an indication of quality or lack thereof.

But the undersized flash hole is what was jamming my press most of the time. I could de-prime it by really getting aggressive - and I didn't break a depriming pin - but it isn't worth it. Something else for the junk heap . Thanks guys for the input.

 

[AZ Pete]

nny brass is made by rvi Partizan-Namenska Proizvodnja, Titovo, Uzice 31000, Yugoslavia. These are actually Cyrillic letters equal to "PPU in the Western alphabet.

I think you are on the right track, you might add Amsec to your list of boxer primed brass to toss out as well.