I gotta go with uglydog. Don't get the S&W. I've heard a lot of complaints about the trigger, and Smith has had trouble with this gun from the beginning. The Ruger is just the opposite. It doesn't look, or feel, as good, but it is a workhorse that is strong, over built, and never be a problem. For just a little bit more money check out the Ruger SR9. Better feel, extremely accurate, and 17 rounds.