Yeah, I actually e-mailed and talked to Smith And Wesson, and they said +P's were ok to shoot all the time. I figured that would be, but I really didnt want to crack the scandium frame on a $700 gun. My biggest beef with it, is I have the Cocobolo gribs on mine and I love the looks of them, but they are really slick so it has a tendancy to want to slip down. I know I could get a nice set of Pachmayr grips that would solve the problem, but I really love the look of the Cocobolo. Roadkil Bill do you know of anyone I can send the gribs to, to get them checkered ? Thanks for the help.